Updated: Countdown to Thursday 6 August 2015 Republican Presidential Debate on FOX News

Check back at INDEPENDENT CENTRIST and/or LANTERN TIMEGLASS JOURNAL at end of both debates to participate in new polls for which candidates won the two debates. “Happy Hour” Debate 5:00 p.m. ET 2:00 p.m. PT ends 6:00 p.m. ET 3:00 p.m. PT. Primetime Debate 8:50 p.m. ET 5:50 p.m. PT ends 11:00 p.m. ET 8:00 p.m. PT.

FOX News has Announced Top 10 and Bottom 7 GOP Presidential Candidates for the 2 Debates on Thursday 6 August 2015

Primetime Debate – at 5:50 p.m. Pacific Time 8:50 p.m. Eastern Time on Thursday 6 August 2015. It will run until 11:00 p.m. on FOX News:

  1. Trump
  2. Bush
  3. Walker
  4. Huckabee
  5. Carson
  6. Cruz
  7. Rubio
  8. Paul
  9. Christie
  10. Kasich

Earlier Debate – the “Happy Hour Debate” – same date on FOX News – 2:00 p.m. Pacific Time 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time for 1 hour:

  1. Perry
  2. Santorum
  3. Jindal
  4. Fiorina
  5. Graham
  6. Pataki
  7. Gilmore

Previously posted…

LESS THAN AN HOUR FROM THE TIME OF THIS UPDATED POSTING, ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE TEN CANDIDATES IN THE PRIMETIME DEBATE ON FOX NEWS THURSDAY 6 AUGUST 2015.

INDEPENDENT CENTRIST

Jim Lantern

11:00 a.m. Pacific Time, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 – Updated 1:00 p.m. Pacific Time, Tuesday, 4 August 2015

Updated: Countdown to Thursday 6 August 2015 Republican Presidential Debate on FOX News

The top 10 candidates, who will be participating in the debate on the main stage, will be chosen – announcement made – at 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time 2:00 p.m. Pacific Time on Tuesday 4 August 2015. That’s the cut-off time when the national polls must be released in order to decide which 10 candidates will enter the primetime debate at 8:50 p.m. Eastern Time on Thursday 6 August 2015. It will run until 11:00 p.m. on FOX News.

Republican Presidential Candidates Debate

5:50 p.m. Pacific Time on FNC, 2 hours 10 minutes

“GOP presidential hopefuls meet in a debate at Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland.” – TV Guide.

For the candidates who fail to make it into the primetime debate on Thursday night, the 7 bottom candidates will have their own hour-long debate at 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time on Fox News.

Republican Presidential Candidates Debate

2:00 p.m. Pacific Time on FNC, 1 hour

“GOP presidential hopefuls meet in a debate at Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland.” – TV Guide.

This is described as the “first” Republican Presidential debate. It’s really not the “first” debate, although the real first encounter was referred to as being more of a “forum” than a “debate” yesterday evening in New Hampshire, which I watched live on C-Span. It included 14 candidates – 11 there in person…

  • Bush
  • Carson
  • Christie
  • Fiorina
  • Graham
  • Jindal
  • Kasich
  • Pataki
  • Perry
  • Santorum
  • Walker

…and 3 via satellite because they had to stay in DC for an important vote in Congress…

  • Cruz
  • Paul
  • Rubio

Of the declared top 17 well-known candidates, 3 did not show up…

  • Gilmore – Just entered the race, too late to participate in this forum/debate.
  • Huckabee – He claimed to have a schedule conflict.
  • Trump – He had a childish reaction, being offended by a forum sponsor, so he refused to participate, and then had his people claim it is a schedule conflict.

My own scoring of Monday’s forum/debate surprised me, putting Lindsey Graham at the top. I normally favor candidates who for the experience have been or are governor of a state. I was leaning in favor of Chris Christie until this debate. First place to Graham. I gave second place to Bobby Jindal. Tied for third place, Kasich and Pataki. At the bottom, I actually disliked Fiorina and Santorum.

Based on a current poll (earlier today), the present prediction for who the Top 10 will be in the primetime debate…

  1. Donald Trump – 19.8 percent
  2. Scott Walker – 13.2 percent
  3. Jeb Bush – 13 percent
  4. Rand Paul – 6.4 percent
  5. Ben Carson – 6.4 percent
  6. Marco Rubio – 6.2 percent
  7. Mike Huckabee – 5.8 percent
  8. Ted Cruz – 5.8 percent
  9. Chris Christie – 3.2 percent
  10. John Kasich – 3.2 percent

CNN’s poll of polls, based on the five most recent nationwide polls, ranks the top 10 candidates in the following order:

  1. Trump (23%),
  2. Bush (13%)
  3. Walker (11%)
  4. Carson (7%)
  5. Huckabee (7%)
  6. Cruz (6%)
  7. Paul (5%)
  8. Rubio (5%)
  9. Christie (3%)
  10. Kasich (3%)

That leaves at the bottom of the pack, registering less than 2 percent of support in recent polls…

  1. Bobby Jindal
  2. Rick Santorum
  3. Carly Fiorina
  4. George Pataki
  5. Lindsey Graham
  6. Rick Perry
  7. Jim Gilmore, who declared last week, has failed to register 1% of support in the recent polls in which he was included.

My opinion, based on Monday’s forum, Lindsey Graham and Bobby Jindal should be in the primetime debate. As is, limited to 10, I’d remove Huckabee, and I’d remove Cruz or Paul. However, I’d prefer it be expanded to a dozen candidates for the primetime debate to include Graham and Jindal. Since that isn’t going to happen, my prediction ranks them as follows…

  • Trump – As the “Wild Card” could end up at the top, somewhere in the middle, or at the bottom.
  1. Walker
  2. Bush
  3. Kasich
  4. Christie
  5. Rubio
  6. Carson
  7. Huckabee
  8. Cruz
  9. Paul

By Friday morning August 7th, we should know who the most likely GOP candidate will be to go up against the Democrat candidate in November 2016.

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